Pat Cunningham
Senior Fund Manager - Asian Equities
Pat Cunningham has been a portfolio manager for over 20 years and with Zurich’s investment management team in Dublin, Ireland, since 2010 managing Asian equities and contributing to asset allocation strategies.
What is ESG?
These are factors which impact on all the equity investment opportunities we look at. The E stands for environmental factors with which we are all familiar such as harmful emissions, the S for social factors to do with relationships with employees and suppliers for example and the G relates to the proper governance of the companies in our investment universe.
In the beginning, when Zurich started work on its responsible investment approach and became a signatory of the Principles for Responsible Investment, we were somewhat sceptical here in our team, thinking that there would be restrictions on our investment approach. In time, we came to realize that ESG is more of a sensible framework and set of tools with which to assess the potential risks attaching to our investment opportunities.
How did you go about integrating ESG?
It’s been a gradual process, it’s been harder to do than to talk about it but it’s not magic. We have been provided with training and that helped. We have also taken great guidance from the analysis and views of MSCI, the company we appointed to be the provider of our ESG research. They have very wide coverage and a deep pool of analysts looking at these issues on a daily basis.
In broad terms, it’s a lot of common sense and awareness. We need to think holistically about our investment choices. What are the risks attaching to an individual investment and how is that discounted in the stock price today. Are those risks inadequately reflected or perhaps there’s an opportunity we can exploit for our clients.
How is that reflected on a day to day basis?
These are issues that we continually explore when we meet and talk with company representatives. We can also monitor the ESG ratings that MSCI attaches to our portfolio holdings and how the overall portfolios look on these ratings relative to the portfolio benchmark.
We have always done this for portfolio valuation and portfolio risk evaluation using measures such as price to earnings multiples, earnings growth rates and company debt ratios. Adding the more qualitative ESG risk factors to this analysis is another important input to our overall portfolio management approach.
How about a few examples?
For instance, we steered clear of a potential Chinese internet investment opportunity. We were concerned that we wouldn’t have the same shareholder rights as the founder members of the company and that those concerns were not adequately reflected in the company’s valuation. Those fears proved well founded and various controversies have dogged the share price performance.
More recently, we have been spending more time evaluating the outlook for the emerging electric battery technologies in the auto sector. These issues have come to the fore even more since 2015 with concerns over vehicle emissions. As responsible investors, we need to think about the long term implications of these issues, what companies should benefit from emerging trends and technologies and those that stand to suffer from changing environmental regulations.
On the social side of ESG, we have had to think about the impact of Chinese clampdowns on corruption and its impact on Chinese gamblers in the former Portuguese colony of Macau. We substantially reduced our exposure to casino companies operating there because gambling revenues were taking a serious hit from these Chinese policies and restrictions.
You are the Irish Responsible Investment Champion – What does that mean?
Well, as part of the Zurich responsible investment approach, every country team had to appoint a responsible investment champion and I have the honour of that role here in Ireland. There are 20 of us or so around the globe. We have monthly calls with the responsible investment team.
The objective is to learn from each other, share best practices and help our teams to integrate ESG and promote an ethos of responsible investment generally in our investment processes.
As an example of this, we were all collaborating a little while ago on a new group proxy voting policy. We want to influence the companies we invest in. We see our votes on key management resolutions as a key way to engage with our investee companies and to be an active rather than passive owner of assets. This should help to promote sustainable investment and longer term investment returns to the benefit of all stakeholders.